Tuesday, October 20, 2015

As he ponders run, Biden touts accomplishments at forum.

The time has finally come for a post on Joe Biden. As Joe Biden begins to talk about the banter that occurred last Wednesday, Washington is pondering, will he run or won't he run? Does a Joe Biden campaign help or hurt the Democratic Party? The latter might be a better question. Also, when will it be too late for him to jump in the race?

17 comments:

  1. Well, a day or two after this article, Biden announced that he would not be running in the 2016 presidential race. However, it would have been interesting to see how he would have fared. Between him, Clinton and Sanders, who would have won? I honestly cannot even guess - all these candidates are popular and known.
    If he had run, I'm guessing it might have hurt the Democratic Party a little by contributing another candidate to the group (though there are still less Democratic candidates than Republican ones). It also might have helped though, since the American public knows Biden and seems to like him a lot. Therefore, there might have been a good chance of Biden winning, or at least being high in the polls. Too bad we will never know what would have happened.

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  2. Joe Biden is not entering the presidential race. I have heard one source say that he believes that Clinton did well enough at the Democratic Debate that he thinks she will run well, but the decision was probably unofficially made long before then. As for whether another candidate would help or hurt the Democractic Party, I think it is important to look at the goals of the party for this coming election. I agree with Talia; I think that the more candidates a party stands behind, the weaker they look to opponents. That being said, the Republican Party still has far too many candidates themselves, so this may be a null point. If the goal of the election is to simply keep a Democrat in the White House, I believe that this move will weaken the party. However, if one looks at all of the candidate's individual popularity disregarding party, polls show that Biden was one of the most popular before he even declared whether or not he was running! This shows that the American people have faith in him, so he might have become an even more popular candidate throughout the campaign. In this way, he could have helped the Democratic Party.

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  3. While Biden said that he won't run, I did hear an interestin blurb on CNN today that made the point that he still could run theoretically if Clinton performs poorly. I think he would only help the Democratic Party by adding to the dialogue within that party and within the nation; also, he could help the Democratic Party by being the ultimate establishment candidate for Democrats who are happy with the status quo.

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  4. If Biden had decided to run I think it would have made the election more interesting. I don’t think it would hurt the Democratic party because Biden is a realistic candidate, and people may have voted for him since he could have continued the work of Obama. If he had decided to enter the race, I don’t think it would be too late for him. Voters know who he is and what he stands for, so he would probably be with Clinton and Sanders in the polls. It would have been interesting to see how the other candidates poll numbers changed if Biden were to run.

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  5. Biden has recently announced that he is not running, but I think if Biden had ran it would've helped the Democratic Party. Even before he had declared that he was not running, Biden was very well received in the polls, which shows his popularity with the American people and would've made him a good establishment candidate as Andrew said.

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  6. By now, Joe Biden has announced he will not be running. I think the results of Biden running would have actually been quite good because many people like him and would assume that he would uphold office the same way Obama is now. However, like a few others said, the more candidates in a party, the weaker the party appears to be. Adding another strong candidate amongst Clinton and Sanders might have further divided the voters, making it harder to choose one nominee, especially since Biden was polling a high percentage of votes before announcing anything. Still, Biden could jump into the race any time and he would still probably pull a good, if not a majority, percentage of the votes. He would have been a good establishment candidate, as a few others have mentioned.

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  7. Joe Biden has announced that he will not run in the 2016 presidential election. If Biden would have ran, I don't think the Democratic Party would be hurt because Biden is a real potential candidate. If Biden decided to jump back in the race, I don't think it would be too late. The people know his beliefs and what he stands for, so he wouldn't be too far off from the other candidates. It would have been interesting to see how the polls and numbers would have changed with Biden in the election, but since his announcement of not running, we may never know.

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  8. After reading the article, I can't help but notice his cocky behavior. He's since announced that he won't be running for election, so why is he trying to cause conflict with Clinton? Does he not want her to win the Democratic nomination? I think Biden would have been a strong opponent for Clinton and that he might have won over her. Honestly I'm wishing he would. Clinton has made so many blunders and mistakes that I fear what our country would be like in her hands.... I don't think it would be too late for Biden to jump in. The Democratic candidates don't have much to work with besides Clinton as the obvious fore-runner. Even Bernie knows that, he's obviously sucking up to her to get the VP spot.

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  9. At this point we all know that Biden has since said that he will not be running for president, however I think that he coud have potentially had a great impact on not only the status of the Democratic party, but also the GOP race as a whole. While the Republican party is complete chaos, the Democratic party has presented itself to be more of a hierarchy with Clinton currently at the top, but I believe that if Biden ran he could have had the potential to be on top. One thing presented by Biden in the article that I found somewhat ironic since he did state that he was not running for the presidency is that he still seemed to initiate arguments against Clinton's beliefs. I think that if Biden did spontaniously decide to run that it would not be too late, if anything it would help make the race more of a challenge for all front runners because at this point even the candidates are beginning to change their stances exemplified by Berine Sanders already giving evidence to possibly running as VP for Clinton and the republicans merely being a showdown between Ben Carson and Donald Trump. Biden entering the race would be the curveball that the 2016 presidential race desperately needs with none of the current candidates ensuring a bright future for our country.

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  10. Now that Biden has announced he won't be running for president I think there will have to be a big change in the race. I personally wasn't surprised that he wasn't running. With his son recently dying and the race going further and further I didn't think he was ever going to jump in. I don't think he would've done to well anyways since the race has already been going on and his former possibility of running has been very unrealistic.

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  11. Following Biden's announcement that he won't be running for president, there is naturally going to be a large shift in the polls. Without a doubt in my mind, Biden would have been a significant factor in the race, and even if he changed his mind and chose to run this week he would still be a huge factor. I don't think it would have been too late for him to run if he had chosen to do so instead of opting not to, as he represents the most sure continuation of the norm, something that I think a lot of Americans are looking for with so many outsiders and outliers running. I think that the constant polarization of parties is frightening to many Americans, who would commonly self-identify as a moderate, and therefore a continuation of the norm would be welcome in this race. However, now knowing that he won't run, those waiting for his decision will turn to the next closest continuer of the status quo, who is, in my opinion and I think many other people's, Hillary Clinton. I think that she will see a further spike in her percentage of polling, and she will further become the clear Democratic front-runner. That's not to say that she now has already won the Democratic ticket: I think there will be a long, interesting road before that is decided. However, I do think that Biden's choice not to run has made that a lot easier for Clinton.
    Furthermore, I think that his choosing not to run neither hurts nor helps the Democratic party. He has made his mark on the party as Vice President for eight years, and he has done a respectable job. Personally, I would say he has helped the Democratic party, and his potential winning could have further helped the party to garner public respect, but I also think that his choice not to run does not directly hurt or help the party.

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  12. I don’t really think Biden would have made a difference. Obama hasn’t had the best approval ratings and Biden was his No. 2. I don’t think that would have boded well in Biden’s favor. Although he would certainly do well in the primaries, I don’t think he has what it takes to claim the White House. My other thought has to do with what we talked about in class regarding “outsiders.” In a race currently distracted by outsider candidates and with Hilary already in the running, would another career politician (especially one who has been in constant spotlight for 8 years) make much of a difference? I definitely don’t think so. He might have stolen some of Hilary’s spotlight but overall I don’t think that would have ended well for the Democratic Party. The more and more candidates we add, the more and more divided and chaotic the party becomes.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to find him in a cabinet in the future. He clearly isn’t done politicking and still holds strong to his own beliefs.

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  13. I don’t really think Biden would have made a difference. Obama hasn’t had the best approval ratings and Biden was his No. 2. I don’t think that would have boded well in Biden’s favor. Although he would certainly do well in the primaries, I don’t think he has what it takes to claim the White House. My other thought has to do with what we talked about in class regarding “outsiders.” In a race currently distracted by outsider candidates and with Hilary already in the running, would another career politician (especially one who has been in constant spotlight for 8 years) make much of a difference? I definitely don’t think so. He might have stolen some of Hilary’s spotlight but overall I don’t think that would have ended well for the Democratic Party. The more and more candidates we add, the more and more divided and chaotic the party becomes.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to find him in a cabinet in the future. He clearly isn’t done politicking and still holds strong to his own beliefs.

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  14. While Biden has announced that he is not running, to answer your question- no, I don't think Biden would have made much of a difference in the presidential race. Overall this round's candidates are not particularly interesting and I'm not a fan of any candidate, so this would have just been one more boring person. Also, he is already the Vice President, and I feel that many people are tired of the Obama administration, especially Republicans (I even know of many Democrats who dislike Obama) so I don't believe he would have done too well. But we don't know for sure, and perhaps we never will. Having too many candidates running for President leads to too much chaos... so it's a good thing he decided not to run.

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  15. The auspicious poll numbers of Biden before he even decided to run speak enough about how he might have faired. People liked him, and the Obama administration had many popular moments which people associate with the vice president. Two days ago he announced he was not running, but if he had run I think things would have not gone entirely terribly for him. The number of Republican candidates currently still far outweighs the number of Democratic ones, but still the more candidates in the race it is possible the race might have been further cluttered.

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  16. I think biden would have had a real shot at winning this campaign. He had two amazing terms as VP and there were no red flags that indicated he would not have been an amazing president. He had such great numbers in the polls and he had not even announced he was running yet. Imagine all of the democrats or moderates who would have supported him if he officially came out and said he wanted the job. But you also have to remember these candidates have personal lives, families they have to think about. Biden's family has been through so much and I do not think they would have been able to make it through the stressful and emotionally draining process of running from president.

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